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【西海岸】比斯利：詹姆斯是GOAT，还觉得GOAT是乔丹的人太守旧

比斯利回答道：“詹姆斯。而且我能给到你非常有力的论据。如果我们把历史上所有球员的数据放在一起比较，然后把名字都遮住，从中找到最强的控球后卫、得分后卫、小前锋之类的。你会把他的数据放在那儿，他会是最强的一、二、三、四甚至五号位。

我觉得那些认为乔丹是GOAT的人，我不是不尊重你们，但你们就是太守旧了。”

[1]“想象一下如果詹姆斯面对的是乔丹的竞争对手。”

Imagine if LeBron faced Jordan's competition

[-]“除了勇士那些人，他对阵的都是那些人要么太老要么太年轻。除了有一年他的球队二当家场均27分之外，他大部分时间都输掉了对阵勇士的总决赛。现在想象一下，如果皮蓬在总决赛中能场均帮乔丹砍下27分呢。”

with the exception of the warriors, he played all those dudes either when they were too old or too young. And he lost most of the years against the warriors besides one year when his 2nd option gave him 27ppg. Now imagine if Scottie gave Jordan 27ppg in a finals.

[--]“想象一下，如果乔丹像詹姆斯一样在史上最弱的东部打球

想象一下，如果乔丹能和韦德、波什、欧文、乐福和安东尼-戴维斯一起打球。”

magine if mj played in the weakest conference of all time like lebum imagine if mj could play with d-wade bosh kyrie love and Anthony Davis

[4]“迈克尔-比斯利说的和大家想的一样。”

Michael Beasley is saying what everyone else is thinking.

[-]”’其他人都这么想‘是的，当然。“

“what everyone else is thinking” yeah sure

[6]”我经历过这两个时代，乔丹是更好的球员。然而，如果有人想讨论生涯长度，我绝对可以考虑考虑。大多数人认为詹姆斯更好，是因为他们是看着詹姆斯打球长大的……争论没有意义🤷。“

I lived through both eras and Jordan is the better player. However if someone wants to debate longevity that's something I can definitely entertain. Most people that think LeBron is better is because that's who they grew up watching... it's no point in debating 🤷

[-]”人们只是除了乔丹的6次总冠军之外没把其他的赛季算在内罢了，哈哈，那些年是他最光辉的岁月，而詹姆斯现在已经打了20个赛季了，哈哈。“

its just ppl don’t count any of jordans other year besides the 6 rings lol… those wheee his only years as the greatest… 20 seasons for lebron now lol

[--]”这就是为什么我说如果有人想讨论生涯长度…我不会为这件事和他们争吵的。我认为乔丹的巅峰期更强，但时间不长。詹姆斯的生涯长度无疑是一个合理的论据。“

That's why I said if someone wants to debate longevity... I won't fight them about it. I think Jordan had a better better but short prime. Bron's longevity is a LEGIT argument for sure.

[9]”乔丹不需要跳槽，也不需要让主教练被解雇。状元詹姆斯继续和那些状元组队只是为了有机会（追上乔丹）

欧文

安东尼-戴维斯

韦德在他生涯第三年就赢得了总冠军，奥尼尔在总决赛中场均得到‘惊人的’13分。“

Jordan didn’t have to team hop and get coaches fired .. LeBron the #1 overall pick continues to partner with #1 overall picks just to have a chance

Kyrie

Anthony Davis

D Wade won a championship in year 3 with Shaq averaging a whopping 13 points in the finals

[-]”乔丹有一个比詹姆斯更好的总经理和主教练。你能说出一个和骑士一期的詹姆斯一起打球的能和皮蓬或者罗德曼相比的好球员吗？“

MJ had a better GM and coach than Lebron. Name a great player that played with Lebron his 1st time with the Cavs that compares to Pippen or Rodman?

[--]”别扯皮蓬和罗德曼。看看乔丹早期的公牛队吧。“

Can't cherry pick with Pippen and Rodman. Take a look at the Bulls roster in Jordan's early years.

[12]”他没说错。很多人都忘了詹姆斯是作为控卫进入联盟的，哈哈。“

He’s not wrong. Lotta people forget LeBron came into the league as a PG lol

[-]”兄弟，他在联盟的第一年是得分后卫。“

Buddy he was SG his first year in the league

[14]”迈克尔-乔丹是有史以来最伟大的篮球运动员。就是这样。毫无疑问，勒布朗已经很接近了，毫无疑问，但伟大并不总是和数据有关。“

Micheal Jordan is the greatest Basketball player of all time. Simple and short. Lebron gets close, no doubt but it's not always about the numbers

[-]”有两件事不会在统计数据中显示出来。

1. 乔丹可能是我见过的所有运动中最具竞争力的球员。

2. 乔丹的防守要好得多。詹姆斯会选对位。乔丹一直如一。“

2 things that don't show up in the stats.

1. Jordan was probably the most competitive player I've seen in any sport.

2. Jordan much better on defense. LeBron picked his spots. Jordan was on all the time.

[--]”除了乔丹两次在季后赛被横扫，以及还有两年无缘季后赛除外🤣。“

Except the 2 times mj got swept in the playoffs or the 2 other years they missed the playoffs🤣

[17]”詹姆斯是一个了不起的球员，他的打球水平令人印象深刻，但要说他的成就和地位与乔丹相当，那就不太可能了。乔丹是一个全民偶像，而詹姆斯失去了两个总冠军和无数的荣誉。詹姆斯是历史前五，但GOAT，不！“

Lebron is an amazing player, to play at his level is impressive but to say he matches Jordan's achievements and status is not the case. MJ is an Icon and Lebron is missing two Championships and tons of accolades. Lebron is in the top 5 but the Goat, nah!

[-]”你错了。詹姆斯比乔丹获得了更多的荣誉和奖项。乔丹的戒指都不是最多的。“

You're wrong. Bron has WAY MORE accolades and awards than Jordan. Jordan doesn't even have the most rings

[19]”如果让我以我们今天的情况来选择一个球员，而且我想要把我的球队打造成一个王朝，我会选花了13年时间带领我们赢得6个总冠军的人，而不是一个在赢得总冠军之前就抛弃我的人。

但那只是我的想法。“

If I had to draft one knowing what we know today, I’d want the guy that builds my team into a dynasty and spend 13 years winning 6 titles and not the guy who bailed on me before winning a title.

But that’s just me.

[-]”他离开是因为骑士管理层太烂，无法围绕他组建一支有竞争力的球队。“

he bailed cause cavs management was incompetent and couldn’t build a competitive team outside of just him

北京时间3月26日，迈克尔-比斯利在做客哈斯勒姆和迈克-米勒的播客节目《The OGs》时被问道了这一问题：“你心目中的GOAT是谁？”